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Author:  ebtruck [ 24 Feb 2009, 13:43 ]
Post subject:  Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
In-Game Name: James Alexzander
Oragnization Name: Forsaken Angels Clan

Background history: James Alexzander was born into poverty on the streets of Mecklenberg. Forced to pickpocket for the food he desperately needed. when he turned 17 he had saved some money to hitchhike to Nuke City. There he had met a good friend in crime Charlie Snazberry, Together they had robbed and killed their way to fame. After years and years of robbing and jail time at the age of 29, James had an idea of an organized crime group The Forsaken Angels, an org witch would be dragged into the underworld (crime world).

Why you want a organization: To add to the RP of the server.
How would this organization help the server: It would give the PD more work then just the 1 - 2 man robberies.
How would this organization help roleplay in the server: give people a fear of danger in the streets and gang wars with the mafia/yakuza.
Ranks,Pay,Purpose:
| Name | Pay | description
Arch Angel $55 Leader, gives orders, makes rules
Guardian Angel $45 Guards Arch Angel
Forsaken Dealer $40 Deals others weapons and maybe drugs
Forsaken Soldier $35 Basic Criminal (pawn)
Recruit $25 soldier in training

Age: 29 in-game
Comments: Pay can be adjusted to people likings.
Author:  James_Vincetti [ 24 Feb 2009, 15:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Well, I do think that Yakuza and the Mafia need to do more group robberies. Occasionally, for some reason, I see Yakuza and Mafia robbing together (which is quite odd).

Except, we have two crime orgs already, that's enough.
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 24 Feb 2009, 15:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
I'm happy to see that someone with a rather firm hold on the English language and a somewhat believable story is attempting to step up and lead in the city, but I only wish it was not for a criminal organization. As James said, the actions of the current crime organizations (at least as far as the public knows) may be slow right now, but two organizations of this type are enough. A place like Nuke City really could not realistically house that many crime groups in such a small area, no matter what the other circumstances are.
Author:  ebtruck [ 24 Feb 2009, 15:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
What if I were to change it to a vigilante org? Like We go against organized crime and yet still commit it when we need more resources? and I barely ever see Yakuza and Mafia online :/
Author:  perlov0 [ 24 Feb 2009, 19:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Currently we are not looking for any new organizations, although hopefully we may accept another org for the server.


Major problem with accepting new criminal orgs: new gunspawns don't work, which we are going to fix in the near future.

I do love the idea of having 3 criminal orgs though, too often the mafia and yakuza make an alliance against the police and there isn't the conflict over... illegal business dealings
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 24 Feb 2009, 19:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
That just means we need better people in the first two organizations. If we create a third one, what's to stop them from allying with the other two? People here will become better roleplayers when they realize that good roleplaying is not all about being on either side of the law. It comes from being someone who actively contributes to the overall "energy", if you will, of the city and its population. You don't have to snort some coke and shoot a bunch of people to accomplish that. Some of you might say, "Well, Max, that sounds pretty boring if you ask me." Everybody, life is boring at times. But we can all agree that it has its moments that are so good that they make up for everything that is boring or just plain terrible.

How are you going to know a da*n good RP when it kicks you in the ass if you don't also know what it's like to suffer through the bad ones, or lack thereof?
Author:  ebtruck [ 24 Feb 2009, 20:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
I would not make alliances with yakuza and mafia because it wouldn't be any fun i mean like 10 people robbing and 5 cops who's gonna win? we would wage war with the gangs and a long time ago me and the yakuza had a dispute one day so i don't like them much :/ and if anything we would help the cops and maybe bribe them to be corrupt towards us in case we needed them....
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 24 Feb 2009, 21:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Ah we'll see. Just wait until perlov starts accepting organizations again, I guess. It'll be a cold day in hell before someone convinces me that we need more criminal organizations, but I'm coming to realize that people just aren't satisfied without them.
Author:  perlov0 [ 24 Feb 2009, 21:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
The lack of gunspawns makes me not want to accept any criminal org cause they'd be outgunned really badly

thats the only reason we havent gotten another org yet...
Author:  ebtruck [ 24 Feb 2009, 22:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
OK i can wait patience is a virtue :P
Author:  Eric [ 24 Feb 2009, 22:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
I think what we really need is the Yakuza to get active so the mafia and them can do other things other than just rob. The point of having rival gangs is that the gangs can...you know...rival each other and actually interact.

EDIT: Sorry for the thread jack. Good to see someone who passed 5th grade English posting an app rather than the illiterate morons who come through periodically.
Author:  Wake [ 25 Feb 2009, 05:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
perlov0 wrote:
The lack of gunspawns makes me not want to accept any criminal org cause they'd be outgunned really badly

thats the only reason we havent gotten another org yet...


Gunshop my friend.
Author:  perlov0 [ 25 Feb 2009, 13:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Wake wrote:
perlov0 wrote:
The lack of gunspawns makes me not want to accept any criminal org cause they'd be outgunned really badly

thats the only reason we havent gotten another org yet...


Gunshop my friend.



Then the admins will forever hear about the unfairness with the guns
Author:  ebtruck [ 25 Feb 2009, 13:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
For me I can wait for gun spawns but until then, we would have to work for our weapons.
Author:  Mikhail Zhukov [ 25 Feb 2009, 15:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Would there be a place for my legal org?
Author:  ebtruck [ 25 Feb 2009, 16:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Mikhail Zhukov wrote:
Would there be a place for my legal org?

please explain in which way your using the term place? sorry a bit slow today :)
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 25 Feb 2009, 18:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Yeah, really, if the lack of gunspawns is the only thing holding you back, then I'd say go for it. Gunspawns are a total jip from realism anyway, except for those in the PD armory.
Author:  ebtruck [ 25 Feb 2009, 18:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Yeah, i really want this org to get started up... i mean i will use spawns when they come available but untill then we will just buy are weapons from the shop and sell for profit as long as they aren't a dmer of course
Author:  Kami O' Joe [ 26 Feb 2009, 15:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Personaly I wouldn't mind another crime org. This new org would need a hideout of course, and I don't know if any are available. What I would really like, however, is to see the Yakuza be more active and organized. A vast majority of organized robberies are carried out by the Mafia, and it sorta get's boring after a while.

If the Yakuza was more active, I wouldn't be so thrilled with another crime org. But since the Mafia's the only org I'm seeing alot of activity from, and Yakuza's doesn't seem capable of organizing against them, the "Forsaken Angles" might help even out the balance of power between crime orgs. Plus it would give SWAT some more oppertunities for fun RP:D
Author:  ebtruck [ 26 Feb 2009, 16:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Kami O' Joe wrote:
Personaly I wouldn't mind another crime org. This new org would need a hideout of course, and I don't know if any are available. What I would really like, however, is to see the Yakuza be more active and organized. A vast majority of organized robberies are carried out by the Mafia, and it sorta get's boring after a while.

If the Yakuza was more active, I wouldn't be so thrilled with another crime org. But since the Mafia's the only org I'm seeing alot of activity from, and Yakuza's doesn't seem capable of organizing against them, the "Forsaken Angles" might help even out the balance of power between crime orgs. Plus it would give SWAT some more oppertunities for fun RP:D

Thank you Kami. ^-^
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 27 Feb 2009, 00:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Ok, but that is not a good reason. I want everyone to recognize this. If it was to be accepted, it would have to be for the right reasons. There is no sense in accepting another organization because one of them is inactive. Why don't we try to make the inactive one active again. The current leader of the Yakuza has been banned, and since he doesn't roleplay when he's on the server anyway, I would suggest that we find a new leader.

Also, I don't believe any new organization should be given property. I believe they should have to work for it, just as they would in reality. Yes, MCF technically owns the bank, but that was not my doing, and I do not support it. Actually, I feel the urge now to put it back up for sale.
Author:  Zurrag [ 27 Feb 2009, 06:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Oh, if it means anything Fox passed the leader to either Me or Tristan, and seeing how Tristan hasn't been on lately I haven't gotten the chance to discuss it with him yet, unless you guys have another way of picking a new leader.
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 27 Feb 2009, 12:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
No that's fine. As long as you intend to try to make it work, then you may run it.
Author:  Lucky_ducky [ 28 Feb 2009, 01:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Guys ebtruck has been banned for one week obn forums but he will discuss all of this when he gets back thanks for your time :)

P.S. when he got banned for jail dodging he went out to eat so please dont flame this org for that reason.
Author:  Bloodstruck7 [ 28 Feb 2009, 10:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Forsaken Angels (Crime Org)
Yeah I got Yakuza Leader, and I'm cleaning up the roster, seeing who's active who's not. So expect the Yakuza to be A LOT more active now
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