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Author:  hale176 [ 23 Feb 2008, 02:24 ]
Post subject:  Job change proposal
Current Roster large and ineffectual.

1101 NCPD Rookie 10 b

1102 NCPD Police Officer I 15 b

1103 NCPD Police Officer II 20 b

1104 NCPD Police Officer III 25 b

1105 NCPD Senior Officer 30 b

1106 NCPD Senior Lead Officer 35 b

1107 NCPD Detective 40 b

1108 NCPD Sergeant 45 b

1109 NCPD Lieutenant 50 b

1110 NCPD Captain 55 b

1111 NCPD Inspector 60 b

1112 NCPD Deputy Chief 65 b

1113 NCPD Assistant Chief 70 b

1114 NCPD Chief of Police 75 a

1201 NCPD SWAT Rookie 45 c

1202 NCPD SWAT Team Officer 50 c

1203 NCPD SWAT Sniper 55 c

1204 NCPD SWAT Senior Officer 60 c

1205 NCPD SWAT Team Lead 65 c

1206 NCPD Assistant Chief of SWAT 70 c

1207 NCPD Chief of SWAT 75 a

1301 NCPD CIA Trainee 45 d

1302 NCPD CIA Agent 50 d

1303 NCPD CIA Field Agent 55 d

1304 NCPD CIA Senior Agent 60 d

1305 NCPD CIA Special Agent 65 d

1306 NCPD Assistant Commander of CIA 70 d

1307 NCPD Commander of CIA 75 a

1501 NCPD Deputy Commissioner 90 a

1502 NCPD Assistant Commissioner 95 z

1503 NCPD Police Commissioner 100 z
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Proposed changes:


General Duty Service:
1101 NCPD Rookie Officer 10 b

1102 NCPD Police Officer I 15 b

1103 NCPD Police Officer II 20 b

1105 NCPD Senior Officer 25 b

1106 NCPD Senior officer II 30 b

1107 NCPD Sergeant 35 b

1109 NCPD Lieutenant 40 b

1110 NCPD Captain 50 b

1112 NCPD Deputy Chief 60 b

1114 NCPD Chief of Police 75 a
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Special Weapons and Tactics:

1201 NCPD SWAT Trainee 30 c

1202 NCPD SWAT Officer 40 c

1203 NCPD SWAT Specialist 45 c

1204 NCPD SWAT Lieutenant 50 c

1205 NCPD SWAT Captain 60 c
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Administrative Police:

1503 NCPD Police Commissioner 100 z
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1301 NCPD FBI Trainee 25 d

1303 NCPD FBI Field Agent 40 d

1304 NCPD FBI Senior Agent 45 d

1305 NCPD FBI Special Agent 55 d

1306 NCPD FBI Assistant Director 65 d

1307 NCPD FBI Director 75 a

Okay so you see a lot of job have been cut out, well some of them are seriously redundant. SWAT teams are small units comprised of elite police officers they are not a group to rival the regular police in manpower. The police do not require an investigative division if there is an alternative group for specifically that purpose, the CIA/FBI for example, what is simply needed is oversight for the CIA/FBI and have them cooperate with the police. You don't need three levels of administrative control, it is horribly reduntant and simply wastes time. The Cheif only needs on deputy not an assistant as well, Swat is not lead by cheifs, they have Captains or Commanders and are assisted by Lieutenants... they are a tight knit group and should not require several levels of command. One Commissioner is all that is needed, both SWAT and general duty police leaders report to him directly, he does not need a freaking entourage. Now for the FBI, they don't have an office and thus do not require regular agents, they in theory should report to the mayor and that can be handled by the director, his assistant should be the one getting information from special agents who in turn should be directing the senior andf field agents in a cell based system.
Author:  Supernuker [ 23 Feb 2008, 13:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
Police ranks come right from an official real life department.

SWAT ranks are also based roughly around real life, and so are CIA.
Author:  hale176 [ 23 Feb 2008, 23:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
A full precinct has a lot more officer than the server does or can even support, so all the extra ranks aren't necessary.
Author:  Jameson [ 23 Feb 2008, 23:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
Yeah cutting my help isn't good..Assistant PC is needed..
Author:  Revven [ 25 Feb 2008, 09:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
I feel a more balanced approach would be:
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Chief of Police: Four stars, similar to a full general.

Deputy Chief of Police: Two or three stars, similar to a major or lieutenant general. In larger departments an Assistant Chief position may also exist.

Inspector/Commander: either a gold or silver oak leaf, similar to majors and lieutenant colonels, or a gold eagle, similar to a colonel. Deputy inspector may also be used by a department.

Captain: two gold or silver bars ("Railroad tracks"), who supervises a precinct.

Lieutenant: a single gold bar ("Butter bar"), who supervises two to three sergeants.

Sergeant: a police officer who supervises an entire watch, made of two to three sections, and wears three inverted chevrons.

Corporal: the lowest supervisory position, who would supervise a section of six to eight other officers, who wears two inverted chevrons.

Detective: an investigatory specialist, usually working in plain clothes. This may be in several classes that correspond to higher supervisory and pay grades.
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This is a good guideline for the server, simply because there are not many 'unnecessary' ranks.
Author:  Ryoma [ 26 Feb 2008, 00:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
I personally like to RP that there are WAY more people in the city than the actual player count. I mean, come on. A city doesn't only have 20 people max.
Author:  Rampage [ 28 Feb 2008, 20:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
It would seem that some ranks can be cut where you have Officer I, II, III, Senior Officer I, II, III. Why not just have "Explorer, Jail Gaurd, Patrolman, Officer, Senior Officer, Seargent, Leuitenant, Captian, Assistant Deputy, Deputy, Chief." with some offshoot branches and ranks for detective and SWAT branches that correspond with this hierarchy?
Author:  Jack Selvon [ 25 Oct 2008, 11:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
How about we add "NCPD Traffic Officer[maybe add some stands in the new map :] ],NCPD Traffic Officer Lead,NCPD Deputy[not deputy chief],NCPD Rookie,NCPD Rookie||[Has more juristiction],NCPD Officer |,NCPD Officer||,NCPD Senior Officer,NCPD Senior Officer Lead,NCPD Rookie Detective,NCPD Detective,NCPD Sergeant,NCPD Lieutenant,NCPD Inspector,NCPD Captain,NCPD Chief of Evidence,NCPD Sherif,NCPD State Trooper,NCPD Deputy Chief,NCPD Assistant Chief,NCPD Chief.
Author:  Maxwell Murder [ 25 Oct 2008, 13:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
No new police jobs need to be added.
Author:  perlov0 [ 25 Oct 2008, 21:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
Theres no need to make a cop's job more specific.. So those job's are useless

And the extra ranks don't really hurt, it doesn't clutter everything too badly... Sure they aren't fully needed for a tsrp server but its not causing an issue... Why change something that works?
Author:  Mikhail Zhukov [ 25 Oct 2008, 21:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
the only thing that i thought was a little weird was how there was like Officer I, II, and III which to me seemed kind of stupid, but that is just my opinion
Author:  Supernuker [ 26 Oct 2008, 00:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
Thats how the ranks in real life are.
Author:  Mikhail Zhukov [ 26 Oct 2008, 08:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Job change proposal
oh well ive just never seen them before, in all of my other servers i only made it so there was like 7 ranks or so
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